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Testing the Hi-Voltage Capacitor on the Magnetic Loop Antenna

I did some preliminary testing of the Hi-voltage capacitor I completed last week and found some interesting things.Rather than commit the 40m loop design I decided to try and adapt the existing loop antenna I have previously described. To make this work in a configuration similar to what I have in mind with the 40m loop, I installed the capacitor at the top and used a toroid instead of the shielded coax loop for the coupling at the bottom of the loop. To do this is needed to replace the vertical PVC supports to accommodate the configuration. The reducer I used for the 1/2″ pipe on the 40m loop was replaced with a 3/4″ version. This configuration worked well. The capacitor is in the range of being able to tune this loop on 20m. Previous experiments indicated a good match with 5 turns on the FT140-43 toroid. It turned out that 6 turns would give me a perfect match 1:1 SWR at resonance. Here is the SWR plot on 20m.


The  bandwidth at the 2:1 points measured at 45kHz. This compares favorably to the original capacitor which was indicating a bandwidth of around 68kHz. This indicates that the Ohmic losses are indeed lower and therefore efficiency should be higher as well.

I did not have enough time this weekend to run all the measurements I had planned but I did operate the antenna indoors at 45W with the FT-817ND and amplifier.The Califonia QSO party was underway and I made numerous contacts in California without difficulty with this loop. The capacitor handled the power without any issues at all!


Third Time Out with the 20m EFHW Antenna

Setup the 20m EFHW as a vertical on the 30ft travel mast as before. The mast is lashed to a chain link fence post and the match box is just off the ground. Checking the antenna at the feed point with the Mini60 antenna analyzer showed a bandwidth of 588 kHz with a 1.11 SWR at 14.175 MHz. The antenna is resonant across the 14.150-14.350  Mhz voice band. Then through a 50ft piece of RG-8X coax the SWR increased to 1.24 but the antenna remained resonant. Here is the station in operation:


There was a couple of QSO parties going on this afternoon so there was a rich field of domestic contacts. I operated at 45W using the FT-817ND and the amplifier.Partly cloudy day today so there were period with no direct sunshine. The following power statistics were noted:

After 1 hour Solar panel provided .644Ahr and the rig consumed .380Ahr

After 2 hours Solar panel provided 1.146Ahr and the rig consumed .904Ahr

I was unable to take a final reading as I accidentally pulled the plug on the solar panel erasing the counts. The 52W fold up panel was able to keep up with my duty cycle at full 45W.

I operated for 3 hours and made 16 QSO’s mainly in the Washington State area.No difficulties at all making the contacts and received solid 59’s across the board. Propagation during this time favored North America but Europe started opening up towards the end. I was able to copy QSO’s in progress with stations in Italy and Germany. I was not able to break the pile ups though.

All in all I am impressed with the performance of this antenna and with the ability of the solar panel to let me operate for an extended period even with periods of cloudiness. Here is a view of the antenna and the antenna fed point.


20m EFHW Antenna On the Air!

It took awhile but I finally setup the EFHW antenna I has built and tuned for 20m up as a vertical outside late this afternoon. The antenna required no external tuner and I am able to run 45W into it without issue.

It worked beautifully!

This could be the best antenna I have built yet for 20m. I noticed low noise and lots of stations coming in. This on a day with SFI at 90 and SSN of 58.First contact was a soild 59 into Guatemala. Also had numerous stateside contacts all coming in nicely. One other DX into Brazil also 59. I ran the FT-817ND with solar power with the two 15W panels. Was able to put in over 1Ahr on the solar side and consumed only .66Ahr on the load side (rig and amplifier). Looks This will be my EMCOM goto system. Next step is to work on a linked antenna so that I can work other bands as needed. Here is the the whole station packed up:

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Test of 45W portable solar Station

I finally got my solar powered portable station out for a full power test. For this test I used the DXextreme 100 with a 33 foot wire setup in vertical configuration. The SOTAbeams portable mast was used to hold the wire up. This was feed with 50 feet of RG-8X coax. I used the FT-817ND with the amplifier and ran it this time on the full power 45W. This was powered as before with the two 12V 7Ahr gel cells and the 55W folding solar panel. Band conditions were not too bad today but there were few stations on the air. I worked outside for about 2 hours today and made four solid contacts. My signal was reported between 53 and 59 depending on the station I contacted. All were domestic contacts. I did hear some stations in South America on 15m but they could not hear me.

Power wise, I consumed 1.1Ahr and put in .3Ahr from the solar supply.That being said I was able to transmit fine with the batteries peaking at about 8.5A. Overall a successful test! Next step is to try this with the Buddipole/Buddistick as well.

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Solar Powered Portable Field Day Station

I presented a seminar today at our local Ham Club entitled “A Solar Powered Portable Station for Field Day”. Here is a copy of the presentation and an associated spreadsheet for making power budget calculations.

Solar Powered Portable Field Day Station

Power Usage Calcs for Battery

The presentation went quite well and we are getting more local ham’s attending the C.H.A.R.R.O. club seminars. Next month no seminar as it will coincide with 2016 Field Day.

Portable Station Stress Test

Today took the portable HF station out for a stress test on power consumption and a shoot out between my 60W folding panel and the Sunkingdom 52W panel. The configuration today was the magnetic loop antenna, the FT-817ND and the MX-P50M amplifier configured for 20W running off the solar charged batteries. I am using two 7Ahr gel cell batteries in parallel.

I started by running the 60W folding panel that I used last field day and ran normal operations for 1 hour. I used the DC meters to monitor how many Amp-hours were delivered to the batteries by the panel and how many were consumed by the radio and amplifier. Today was a partly cloudy day with periods of direct sunshine followed by cloud induced shade. After 1 hour the 60W panel delivered .422Ahr to the batteries with the load consuming .717Ahrs. I then switched to the new Sunkingdom panel and after 1 hour it had delivered .727Ahr with the load consuming .667Ahr. The smaller Sunkingdom panel clearly outperformed the large 60W foldup panel running these loads.

During these 2 hours of operations I made 8 contacts including Venezuela and Argentina. Interestingly enough my weakest contact was with a NPOTA station at Palo Alto battlefield only 10 miles from the QTH. All in all another good afternoon of outdoors radio! I will likely do some more testing on these solar panels but it looks like the Sunkingdom panel is a winner.

I also did a tweak on the Magnetic loop antenna and replaced the wooden dowel with a fiberglass rod for tuning. The wood rod was getting chewed up with each use while the fiberglass looks like it will be more durable. The tripod repair I made did not take as the epoxy looks like it didn’t cure properly. Probably a bad mix on my part. Will repair as time permits.

The California QSO Party with 20W and a Mag Loop

California by far has one of the most active QSO parties I have seen all year. I joined in on this for a few hours this afternoon using the FT-817ND with the MX-P50M amplifier and the Magnetic loop antenna. My goal today was to gauge the effectiveness of running at 20W vs. 5W in making QSO’s. I started by tuning around 20m but found the noise level was a bit high on the band and most stations were coming in weak. I switched to 15m and didn’t hear much until I adjusted the direction the loop was pointing in. Many stations working this band out of California started coming in after adjusting the loop.This was the first time I really noticed the directivity of the loop antenna.

I was using a 13.8V power supply to run the rig and the amp so I only needed 1 W to drive 20W out. Started to work the stations I could hear and almost all returned my call on the first try. Only one station reported a weak signal but by then the band had started to fade.I worked 20 stations on 15m running 20W with the mag loop (indoors!). I setup the loop with the shorter coax to run 15m thru 10m. 12m and 10m were fairly quiet so i tuned back up to 15m and closed another 6 contacts. These were my first real tests of the loop through its tuning range and I was able to verify it was working well.

I moved back to 10m and heard nothing then tried 12m. I heard a station on 12m from Chile and once again adjusted the direction of the loop and noticed the pickup in signal strength. On 2.5W at 15m I was getting 30W out and made the call. He picked me up right away and gave me a 54 signal report.

This experience has verified the performance of both the large loop from 20m thru 15m and the small loop from 15m to 12m. 10m remains elusive but the band is really hit or miss lately.

I am confident now that on the 20m-12m bands I can make reliable contacts using 20W on SSB using the amplifier and the mag loop antenna.

Moved to the FT-450D and made a few more contacts on 15m and 20m for the QSO party and made one 10m contact to Argentina. All in all a fun afternoon of HF.

Next up is to take to the outdoors with this setup and take some measurements using solar charged battery power.

Solar Power Capacities

I have two solar panel setups that I can use for the portable station. I have used both successfully on QRP only with the FT-817N running 5W. One setup up uses two 15W panels for a total of 30W. The other is a roll-up 60W panel. I looked up the worst case available daylight hours for this area of South Texas and found it was 4.42 hours. This works out to 7.25Ah for the 30W and 17.7Ah for the 60W panel. Two 7Ah 12V gel cell batteries provide my storage. full discharge would be at 50% of the total or 7 Ah.

In an emergency situation needing to handle traffic, I estimated needing to run 12 hours a day such that 90% is receive time (10.8 hours) and 10% (1.2 hours) is transmit time. Now using the current draw values I measured previously with the FT-817ND and the MX-P50M amplifier I have the following power needs:

QRP (5W): 7.78 Ah

20W xmit: 12.96Ah

37W xmit: 17.2Ah

From this info one can see that the QRP station will run with the 30W panels but there is no headroom in the power budget. The 60W panel has ample energy to keep the batteries topped off. This has pretty much been confirm by my portable operations as well.

With 20W and no solar charging I would have about 1/2 hours of talk time.

Power Consumption of MX-P50M Amplifier and FT-817ND

I setup a 12V, 30A power supply I have for another project to use with the MX-P50M Amplifier and the FT-817ND. I adjusted the power supply such that is has an output voltage of 13.8V. Here are the readings on 20m:

Current draw on Receive with amplifier on standby: 0.36A

Current draw on receive with amplifier on: 0.4A

Current draw with 1/2W in / 10W out : 3.69A

Current draw with 1W in / 20W out: 5.4A

Current draw with 2.5W in / 45W out: 7.2A

Current draw with 5.0W in / 60W out: 8.3A

Note that the power was measured with an SWR/wattmeter and at 5W input is clearly exceeding the 45W rating of the amplifier. So with this power supply I would limit to 20W with the magnetic loop antenna so just need to limit output power to 1W on the FT-817ND.

Next tested battery power. My portable power is provided by two 12V 7Ahr gel cell batteries connected in parallel. I hooked this up to my charge controller and measured the output voltage at 12.6V. Here are the consumption measurements:

Current draw on Receive with amplifier on standby: 0.36A

Current draw on receive with amplifier on: 0.39A

Current draw with 5W amplifier off: 1.77A

Current draw with 1W in / 20W out: 5.25

Current draw with 2.5W in / 24W out: 6.38A

Current draw with 5.0W in / 37W out: 7.0A

For 20W current draw remains the same as the power supply by my max power output is limited to 37W.

MX-P50M Amplifier for Yaesu FT-817ND

I had been debating long and hard on a higher power rig for HF portable use. I really enjoy running the Yaesu FT-817ND on 5W QRP and portable. There are times when conditions are just plain lousy and my signal clearly doesn’t get through the noise floor. A big goal of my portable station is for running off the grid in case of an emergency. There are times when QRP will just not get through. With this in mind I have often looked at getting an FT-857D which is a mobile /portable rig capable of 100W. Unfortunately, my budget just wont allow it. I started looking at amplifiers for the FT-817ND but cost remained an issue. I ultimately came across a Chinese made 45W amplifier on Ebay that is called a MX-P50M and comes with a cable specifically for the FT-817ND. The cost for this was $189 including shipping from Hong Kong. I have read some real horror stories regarding some Chinese made amps with most being nothing more than noisy CB amps. After a bit of research I came across some favorable reports on this unit from folks like VK2QR and GM4SLV. Check out these sites for some detailed measurements. I decided to take the plunge and order one about a week ago. I just received it today and unboxed it.

The amp was well packed and came with a  DC power cable and an ACC cable but no manual. Setup with the FT-817ND is fairly straight forward. First thing was to add some Powerpole connectors to the DC supply line. I made this a “Y” connector so I can also plug in the rig’s power supply with the same cable. This cable connects to the amp to some sort of cheesy little connector which I will discuss in greater detail. The other cable connects the amp to the ACC port of the amplifier. There are two SO-239 connectors in the back, One of these goes to the antenna and the other to the radio. I connected an SWR/power meter to make some measurements and am using the magnetic loop antenna so I need to limit power to no more than 25W. The front panel has a band switch and a power/bypass switch. There are two LED’s one for power and the other to indicate transmitting. The entire unit is housed in a sturdy aluminum case with a heat-sink on the upper surface.

I hook up the coax, and the meter and the radio on a 15A 12V power supply. The amp needs only 8A at 13.8V to run at full power. I tune up the loop antenna and set the power output to 1W. I turn on the amp and….nothing….power light doesn’t light up….hmmmmm. I powered everything down again and checked the connections but still no power. On to the inline fuse holder on the amp power cable. This is a pretty weak cover and sure enough the 10A fuse inside was blown…hmmmmm. As luck would have it…no spare fuses…so off to Home Depot for a pack of 10A fuses. Insert the new fuse and power on and….nothing…check the fuse again and it was blown…aha!

Needless to say I was starting to think about how I was going to return this thing but decided to check all my connections. I unplugged the cheesy little power connector on the amp and sure enough the pins had bent. I straightened these out and made sure they made contact, replaced the blown fuse and this time…nice blue power LED light came on. Whew!

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From here testing proceeded nicely. I set the band switch to 20m, adjusted the Magnetic Loop antenna for min SWR with the amp off and set the power on the FT-817 to 1W. Turning the amp on gave me about 15W. 2.5W on the rig gave me around 22W which is where I intend to run it. Total Power consumption is under 5A at this power level.  Made a 20W contact on SSB into Nevada with no issues other than QSB on the band tonight. All in all I am favorably impressed with this unit. I’ll be doing some more testing with various power supply sources over the next few days. I am hoping that I can still run this on my solar power setup without excessive drain.My preliminary estimates are that with the 60W fold up solar panel used during full daylight availability in South Texas would give me 3AHr headroom  over a 12 hour period with 10% transmit time at full power.